End-to-end Encryption & WhatsApp

8 minute read | Last updated 27-Sep-2018 |  Social Media, Privacy

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Morning, everybody. How you doing today at Marquee ride up in the background a little bit of a different vibe of at a wework i in Downtown Montreal down here for the day for some meetings times little busy. I hopefully I do come through well real quick and there was a lot of stuff in the news last couple days about sound on Facebook.

I’m circling back up because the two Instagram Founders have decided to leave them in the WhatsApp founders of the you left last year really interesting article sort of getting an inside in some of the leadership with something in privacy radar that I thought was really important example and that was around and and encryption on WhatsApp after getting fired from an acquired from or by Facebook shortly after that.

I position WhatsApp deployed end-to-end encryption for basically everybody on the platform. What that means is your device to somebody else’s device the traffic and the chat messages. Tripping all the way through that means passing through different servers. Nobody can actually see the contents of that communication. What it means is that you get the ability for private Communications and only people can intercept get to encrypted packets, but they can see that in a communication of her so they know that you and I spoke and for how long, but they don’t know the contents of that communication why this popped up and why this is important is it popped up and sort of the Scandal within the internal machination to Facebook trying to monetize WhatsApp because they couldn’t push ads directly into the chat because those chats were end-to-end encrypted.

I think it’s a really important fact the really important thing to highlight is that because that security because that safety secure by Design it’s private by default and that’s a huge Advantage. The only people who get access to those messages are those who have the devices so if you have my phone or your phone you can access those.

Sleeping girls for group chat. It just gives up with everybody within that group can see those and an encrypted messages. You can’t see them on the server and that’s a really interesting way of Designing a system. It’s a very secure way cuz I need system. There are the others that are similar to it on iMessages end-to-end encrypted as long as you don’t have iCloud backups Turn on there’s a number of other services like signal I believe telegram as well at the FFL which is a fantastic list of end-to-end encrypted chat messages.

The only place that we should see that I was writing on four courses should be out shortly. I’ll have some news around that I’m in the coming weeks I have where is coming a chapter 1 encryption and it was basically try to design systems and and as much as possible that the business challenge there in this is came up in the Facebook issue is how do you make sure that you can still monetizing your service and of course be traditional injecting ads or harvesting the content of those Communications is no longer possible because of that and an encrypted because only two people with Device, I will see this argument come up in law enforcement people have challenges around law enforcement.

I’m accessing these messages, but that just means I can’t go to the system. They can go to WhatsApp to get the message. They have to actually get and then lock it in there, but it changes the design parameters and not so I think surmountable problem. That’s a problem that people should be willing to tackle because the security that I provide for your users and for the systems in South is undeniable having that end and encryption is absolutely key.

So as you’re reading this interesting insight into the view from inside Facebook around Instagram Founders around what’s at founders of monetizing what’s happened and and encryption this is what’s going on like a set of short one today. Let me know what you think online. Hit me up in NCAA in the comments down below for those review on the blog on the podcast today.

I’m sorry if the audio quality is a little subpar. Like I said, I am on the road and hit me up. I email me at Mark and. CA. Hope you have a fantastic day. I will talk to you online and see on the show tomorrow. Morning, everybody. How you doing today at Marquee ride up in the background a little bit of a different vibe of at a wework i in Downtown Montreal down here for the day for some meetings times little busy.

I hopefully I do come through well real quick and there was a lot of stuff in the news last couple days about sound on Facebook. I’m circling back up because the two Instagram Founders have decided to leave them in the WhatsApp founders of the you left last year really interesting article sort of getting an inside in some of the leadership with something in privacy radar that I thought was really important example and that was around and and encryption on WhatsApp after getting fired from an acquired from or by Facebook shortly after that.

I position WhatsApp deployed end-to-end encryption for basically everybody on the platform. What that means is your device to somebody else’s device the traffic and the chat messages. Tripping all the way through that means passing through different servers. Nobody can actually see the contents of that communication. What it means is that you get the ability for private Communications and only people can intercept get to encrypted packets, but they can see that in a communication of her so they know that you and I spoke and for how long, but they don’t know the contents of that communication why this popped up and why this is important is it popped up and sort of the Scandal within the internal machination to Facebook trying to monetize WhatsApp because they couldn’t push ads directly into the chat because those chats were end-to-end encrypted.

I think it’s a really important fact the really important thing to highlight is that because that security because that safety secure by Design it’s private by default and that’s a huge Advantage. The only people who get access to those messages are those who have the devices so if you have my phone or your phone you can access those.

Sleeping girls for group chat. It just gives up with everybody within that group can see those and an encrypted messages. You can’t see them on the server and that’s a really interesting way of Designing a system. It’s a very secure way cuz I need system. There are the others that are similar to it on iMessages end-to-end encrypted as long as you don’t have iCloud backups Turn on there’s a number of other services like signal I believe telegram as well at the FFL which is a fantastic list of end-to-end encrypted chat messages.

The only place that we should see that I was writing on four courses should be out shortly. I’ll have some news around that I’m in the coming weeks I have where is coming a chapter 1 encryption and it was basically try to design systems and and as much as possible that the business challenge there in this is came up in the Facebook issue is how do you make sure that you can still monetizing your service and of course be traditional injecting ads or harvesting the content of those Communications is no longer possible because of that and an encrypted because only two people with Device, I will see this argument come up in law enforcement people have challenges around law enforcement.

I’m accessing these messages, but that just means I can’t go to the system. They can go to WhatsApp to get the message. They have to actually get and then lock it in there, but it changes the design parameters and not so I think surmountable problem. That’s a problem that people should be willing to tackle because the security that I provide for your users and for the systems in South is undeniable having that end and encryption is absolutely key.

So as you’re reading this interesting insight into the view from inside Facebook around Instagram Founders around what’s at founders of monetizing what’s happened and and encryption this is what’s going on like a set of short one today. Let me know what you think online. Hit me up in NCAA in the comments down below for those review on the blog on the podcast today.

I’m sorry if the audio quality is a little subpar. Like I said, I am on the road and hit me up. I email me at Mark and. CA. Hope you have a fantastic day. I will talk to you online and see on the show tomorrow.